> Stigma attatched to futures trading, options, other derivatives?

Stigma attatched to futures trading, options, other derivatives?

Posted at: 2014-12-05 
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There is not a stigma for hedging, but there are many self-described investors who think they know what they are doing better than the market, so they believe that they are not just speculating.

Your statement that "speculators aren't really just gambling or it wouldn't be so popular" is completely false. Vegas is very popular. Even there, people think they have systems that put them ahead f the chumps.

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In the case of many penny stocks, low market price inevitably leads to low market capitalization. Such stocks can be highly volatile and if you have the right information it's very easy make a lot of money!

Using derivatives for hedging is perfectly reasonable.

- Banks use interest rate derivatives like caps, floors, swaps, swaptions.

- Farmers use agricultural derivatives to hedge crop prices

- Companies use derivatives to hedge currency, financing, or materials risk.

The "stigma" comes when individuals use derivatives to speculate.

- The vast majority have no idea what they are doing.

- Most don't have a clue how much knowledge they are missing.

- Very few understand the severity of their disadvantage trading against professionals.

Large scale bucket shop operations were shut down in the 20s, but with options you can replicate the experience to an extent.

If your contract expires out of the money you lose all the money you placed in that contract. You may have a set up that balances it out but that's not the point, the specific contract, expires worthless.

This experience is similar to a turn of the wheel in roulette, it is not similar to what occurs in regular purchases in the equities or bonds market.

"unless you have no idea what your doing," somewhat gives you your answer.

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There is no stigma among Wall St professionals. I have no idea what you are talking about.

because people who don't understand how markets work blame traders for prices going up on commodities they use (although they never seem to give traders any credit when prices go down, do they?)

I am wondering if anyone knows where this stigma stems from? Derivative instruments really aren't gambling, unless you have no idea what your doing and just make hap-hazzard trades. In fact a lot of well respected companies use futures and swaps for hedging purposes, and the speculators aren't really just gambling or it wouldn't be so popular, so why the stigma?